Dortmund and Bayern unbeaten as Freiburg make early top-three push

Dortmund lead on 13 points after five rounds with Bayern two behind. Freiburg sit third with a game in hand.

The numbers frame it: after the opening rounds the Bundesliga is as tight at the top as it has been in years, and every result shifts the picture.

What happens next is the interesting part. Supporters will want to see whether this becomes a pattern or a footnote, and the next fixture is the first real test of that.

As ever, the conversation continues in the supporters room, where the mood after full time tends to be a better barometer than any table.